a law-abiding mentally stable america, that's not america's problem. this is -- chicago, where are chicago's guns coming from? we trace the weapons coming into my city, and when residents say stop the carnage, look at the guns we're tracing, i have no power to stop them coming into my city, as rahm does in chicago, they're coming from places that have free secondary markets where criminals and gun runners buy them so easily and pump them into communities like mine and easy for a person like a criminal to get his hands on a gun. no person -- the nra included -- no person could justify a system in america where somebody like the mumbai terrorists who didn't use a bomb who used automatic and semiautomatic weapons that you could so easily get in this country -- >> that's why law enforcement -- [ all talking at once ] >> -- machine guns in this country. >> wait a minute. we're finding these weapons on our street. one more, my police director, 25-year professional has never seen as many semiautomatic weapons and they're not coming from law-abiding citizens.